By Sandra Dogger Klassen
Dutch Dogger
Most Doggers trace our family back to Obbe Dogger, 1607 Schild, Texel Norde Holland, Netherlands. They took the name Dogger as they were fishermen of the dogfish.
My father Jacob Dogger and his parents Dirk Dogger/Jenneke (Vogelsang) Dogger all from Delft … arrived in Canada in 1923, my father was 4 at the time. They shipped from Rotterdam on the ship Volendam. My dad had other siblings all are gone now but for one sister . I have a copy of my grandparents immigration papers and wedding papers. I am aware, though, my grandfather Dirk came from Friesland.
My grandfather died in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Of my omah, I have no memory but through family photos; of their other offspring, I know little as they were a diverse family. Most history was lost to fire of my grandparents home . All I have had until recently has been oral history
My dad (born December 30, 1919 Delft Holland), now 91, resides in a nursing home in Ft Erie, Ontario, Canada. He had me do a search online to Texel Island knowing there were many Doggers there. Coincidentally I was connected with a Miriam Klaasen. Same name different spelling!
Miriam Klaasen, also by co incidence heard from my cousin Llynda Dogger Chapman in Melbourne, and also from Cor Dogger (Els) in Delft within the same time frame, weeks from each of us.
Since then our correspondence has grown to include several more “cousins”. We will, in the next year, put our family trees together … and send them to you.
I had three other siblings, one of whom were deceased aged 26. His two children are to be included within our family tree although they now use the name Marlin … Ah, a fish by any other name!!
There appear to be no more boy “children” in Canada with a Dogger name. My father had a brother Richard (Dick) in Ontario he is now deceased as is his wife my Aunt Gladys.. They had three sons. If I understand correctly two of them were adopted. My cousin Terry (Bev) Dogger in Gravenhurst, Ontario has been known to our family most of my life. He and my brother were friends. He and his wife have one daughter. Of the adopted sons I know of one in Alberta and his son here in our province. They (Forrest and Cheryl) have no children by choice … And that’s the news for today!
For the weather, please tune in to http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Hav/Dogger_bank/
For Dogger Boats read on:
Drawn by L Francia. The Newfoundland Cod Smack Called Dogger. From Charles de Volpi, Newfoundland: A Pictorial Record (Sherbrooke, Quebec: Longman Canada Limited, ©1972)
Fishing boats at Newfoundland, 1822: “The Newfoundland and Labrador cod fishery struggled to remain profitable following the end of the Napoleonic Wars in 1815. Fish prices dropped, competition increased, merchant firms struggled to stay solvent, and fish workers watched their earnings disappear.” http://yachthub.com/list/ed.html?de=65907
Since I have a daughter (Dr Carrie Dyck) living in Newfoundland working at MUN (Memorial University) I am familiar with the words Cod Smack. I have yet to see one though!
William Clarkson Stanfield, On the Dogger Bank (1793–1867). Victoria and Albert Museum, London
For sale: “Fresh from a major recent refit including shipwright, electrical and mechanical work, this well regarded Dogger design is very well presented. With a roomy interior and nice cockpit she is a the ideal cruiser racer. She has a successful racing history could still be competitive on handicap as well as perfect for cruising offshore.” http://yachthub.com/list/ed.html?de=65907
Signing off, Sandra
Audio: Sailing over the Dogger Bank
- Clipart etc: Dutch Dogger
- Google Books: Fagan, Brian. The Little Ice Age
that young girl sitting on the right Is 15 years old. That is my mother.
That young girl sitting on the right . She is 15. She went to Salt lake city, Utah and met her husband in the dutch club.They have five children. Henry,Lavora Marvin, Robert,and linda. Henry is dead. Their last Name is meyer.
As I said before I will get some pictures for you. I have that same picture. It is a post card on heavy stock. I have two other pictures one of your dad and my mom, another of grandfather standing next to a yellow house. I never met him. I am the only one that moved away. I will try and get in touch with my brothers about pictures. However as far as i know now they were all discarded. Mom cleaned house and got rid of them. Which made me very sad. My daughter is a dr. also and she is married to a dr. We have four children.
I am waiting for your answer.
Dear Lavora , What a wonderful gift you send us! Now you say it I do recall your Parents last name. I knew Granddad had moved with the first of their family to Salt Lake, He took with him your Mother and Uncle Simon. This Grandfather (Dirk) originated from Friesland Holland where people are known to be tall. .Your Mom’s sister Jenny was known in our family as the Oral Historian, a Red Head! Never married… Most of what I recall of her spoken family History I have researched and found to be so true which is what brought me to Doggerland.
When Granddad returned for the rest of his family they did not have passage to enter the U.S. so they came to Canada, they settled very far away from that East coast, in Edmonton Alberta.
I have a musical Video of beautiful places in Holland and it brings me to tears they left such Beauty to settle in such an empty unforgivingly cold land. Granddad Dogger made his garden grow and he gardened until his year of death. After a fall breaking his hip he rather gave up. He not only gardened his own back yard he gardened two elderly neighbors gardens They were too old he said yet he had a good ten years on them both. . I have many stories to tell you of our Granddad.. Today I will phone cousin our cousin Terry in Gravenhurst Ontario and give him this good news.. He and I wondered for some time where the name Noorda came in… Aunt Anne (if she is still with us) is in British Columbia (Creston) We live in Candle Lake Saskatchewan (such a funny word to say!) , both retired and enjoying it.
I don’t know how we might exchange email addresses… Happy Holidays Sandra
Lavora Noyes , Liz Comey In response to my email with each of you I received this reply ~~ Sandra
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I will wait for your response
Now I know how they got to Salt lake city. I wonder how they chose Salt Lake City. It was a nice Place to grow up. Canada is so very cold. They must have wanted to get into the U. S. and after a time gave up.
My younger brother is six feet six. I haven’t done anything about the pictures yet, a lot going on.
try this E mail address
regards
I’ve seen etymology claiming that “dogger” may refer not only to dogfish but to cod fishers if not the cod they fished. Cod are not “dogfish”.
I find it interesting that the Dutch borrowed the word “dog” from the English.